Seniors - Friday Group

Friday Seniors SIG Report January 2010

Good Evening fellow SIG members,
 
Last Friday we had a pretty good roll-up for an early January SIG ...twenty one members. We enjoyed a very interesting meeting with special thanks to Bob Young who gave us a really comprehensive presentation on the NBN (National Broadband Network).  Bob delivered a very well structured presentation on the NBN which he is so qualified to do: as most of you know Bob was in a senior management position with Telstra before he retired and recently attended an industry conference at which he was brought right up to date with the situation.
 
He spoke on what the NBN is, it's history, the politics, the people, the technical options, the cost, it's uses and the present position.  Bob kept our attention throughout and the questions asked by many of the group confirmed our interest.  Thanks Bob.
 
After our coffee break we had our Q & A which included some questions emailed to me before the meeting.  Although we were able to offer some potential solutions I was asked to include the questions in this report so that some of our group might be able to offer other solutions after a more detailed look at them.  Here they are:
 
From Thomas: 
 
"(1) I tried to uninstall Itunes that is connected to QuickTime, as I don't really need these programs.  After removal I got the following error message on boot up:  'Windows cannot find C:\programfiles\itunes\ituneshelper.exe. Make sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again. To search for a file, click the start button and then click search.'  I have deleted every instance of Itunes and QuickTime from the registry but still the error message returned on bootup.  I then reinstalled these programs and now there is no error message.  (Google always wants to sell programs such as RegCure or Registry Booster and that is not the answer)."  We, the group, suggested that the apps be uninstalled using 'Revo Uninstaller' in it's most 'aggressive' mode 
 
(2) I had to reinstall Microsoft Office PowerPoint viewer. Now when I want to use it I have to go to the "open with" program list and click on power point viewer to open the pps attachment.  Even if I click "always use the selected program at this kind of file" has no effect.
 
(3) Frequently I get this message: An error occurred when opening the backup archive. Cannot continue the operation due to either the backup is corrupted, or it is used by another process;  for example the backup has been mounted as a disc"  I have Acronis 11 and a full backup of drive C on my external HDD but no backup had been mounted.  What do you think is the problem?  Where are you Allan?
 
From Oscar:
 
"I was asked for a list of one of my "shared accounts" from my address book. I found it was a bugger of a job to do. When you click on the list it is shown in a small window. Print screen does not catch it, in the end I printed out the whole address book with coma limited fields and proceeded to copy and paste the ones required. Do you know an easier way this can be done. I may have been able to do a print screen with video accelerator turned off but then I would had to then type the list".  (This refers to Outlook Express). 
 
If anyone can offer solutions to these questions please email me and I can advise Thomas and Oscar accordingly.
 
Quite a few of you requested that I include the "Animator vs. Animation" humorous 'stick' program embedded in an Excel spreadsheet that I showed unintentionally!  I have decided not to include this as it is a 5MB file which may be too big for some of you.  I will put it on our group's computer and you can copy it at your leisure (in a folder named: 'Jokes', on the D:\ drive) ; however if your email account can accommodate the file size just email me and I will forward it to you. 
 
Those couple of 'prepared' items that I had and were meant to 'top-up' the SIG, were not needed, so they will carry over to next month, although Graham Grant mentioned that he has room for 'something' at his Tuesday Seniors SIG on 19 January, in which case I might be able to present one of them subject to Graham's requirements on the day.
 
Don't forget: Graham Grant's Tuesday Seniors SIG at 10:00am on 19 January followed by Terry's Genealogy SIG at 1:00pm; Peter Collard's Digital Photography SIG is on at 10:00am on Friday 22 January. [no main meeting this month....Australia day!!]
 
If you would like to present something that you think might be of interest to our group please email me and I will find the time for you!!  Or if you don't want to present, then give me the details and I will do it and of course acknowledge you as the 'creator'.  We all have such a variety of interests in IT so why not share them?
 
Enough!  I'm tired! See you soon.
 
Cheers,
 
Bill Parry 
 
ps. This report is in a different format so as to make it easier to upload to our website...I would appreciate your feedback...and  don't forget to have a look at our website...make it one of your homepage tabs!

Friday Seniors SIG Report December 2009

Good Evening fellow SIG Members,

Well we were back to 'normal' attendances yesterday... twenty three members. We enjoyed a pretty interesting meeting followed by one of the best value meals in town at the 'Starbar' (just down George Street opposite the cinema complex), to celebrate Christmas, the last Friday seniors SIG for 2009 and the Festive Season in general!! $6.95 for large steak, or roast chicken breast or a selection of other interesting western and Asian meals. See you there again next Tuesday after Graham's seniors SIG finishes at noon and before Terry's Genealogy SIG starts at 1:00pm.

Q & A... Among the 'stuff' we discussed were two questions from Peter Sheldon who sent me an email outlining them:

1.   A file attached to an email could not be opened-  the following message appeared:

"File does not have a program associated with it for performing this action. Create an association in the Folders Options panel". What is the Folders Option panel and how does it operate to solve this problem..

2.  How do you make a backup copy of a program you have on your HDD ( and appearing on the desktop) onto a CD. I have mislaid the original discs.

With Question 1, you can do it using one of the two ways that I know:  'In Windows Explorer go to: Tools/Folder Options/File Types tab/ wait until files generate then select your file type and then click on 'Change' and select your preferred associated program from the list.  The other way is to select and right click the specific file/from the 'context' menu, click on 'open with' and from the list displayed click on 'choose program'...select the required program and if you want it to be the program always associated with your file type, check the box marked 'Always use the selected program to open this kind of file' and then click o.k.

With Question 2, the team is not sure that you can do this as most programs have 'code' etc written to the registry which won't be copied if you just go to the '.exe' file located on your HDD. Some suggested variations on how to do this were a little complex, and the 'cure' might cause more problems than the 'illness'.  I think the consensus was: buy the program again and look after the disks...or at least back them up at the immediate post-purchase stage! This website might help you: Thanks for the email Peter.

Among other questions resolved was one related to a previous SIG at which it was mentioned that the OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) versions of programs, including Operating Systems, were offered for sale when purchasing a new HDD. Most members including me had thought that one had to purchase(or have built)a new computer system where the builder was permitted to use OEM versions of the various programs installed on your system.  (This is always cheaper than buying the 'off the shelf' versions). But we are reassured that during the past month at least one member was able to purchase an OEM version of the OS with the purchase of a new HDD. But as I understand it you must be aware that the warranty is carried by the computer builder, not the software developer. Thanks Malcolm.

Web-Based Tutorials ... my current interest in tutorials came about during my trip to the UK when my wife was doing a magazine puzzle and she and some friends could not arrive at the correct answer. I was doing something else at the time and was excluded from all discussion!  But then in front of them all she asked me to "have a go".  Without prolonging the story I was able to call on some long lost and seldom used algebra and I came up with the answer. I think it was a 'fluke' but I decided then I should get back into it. I haven't done it yet but I know which tutorial I will use!

But really, we I.T. interested people are often trying to find out how to this ...how to do that...and online tutorials are a good way to go...but you need plenty of time.  There are stacks of them!...I googled 'free online tutorials'...for free online tutorials for specific subjects such as for Microsoft or Windows just add  XP, Vista, Win 7 or whatever you specifically want.  Among others that I found , I chose these to show you a selection:

Some Web-Based Tutorials

Top-Windows-Tutorials   -   Tutorials for Windows of all flavours!
Baycon Group
Free Online Courses and Tutorials
Learnthat
Programming Tutorials
Free Skills
Free-Ed
Free Email Tutorials   - Email tutorials
Photoshop Lightroom Help and Support
w3schools   -   Web-building tutorials
Visual Math Learning   -   Math(s) tutorials
Library Support Staff
Microsoft On-Line  

...and this is a surprise site on which you might find the name of the @ symbol and learn what 'awake' means: Enchanted Learning have a look!

Some Web-Based Tutorials ... I chose to have a look at 'online social networking' as it is called these days because  as a member of a seniors interest group I have a paranoia about putting myself out online like a lot of young people do, giving the details of their life!! I don't want to be faced with 'identity theft' or such and I thought my fellow seniors members may have similar feelings. But we should at least have look at it; the various offerings, how to sign up etc.  Hence my leap into the very basics of social networking.

We probably all know the names of the popular sites e.g. MySpace, FaceBook, Twitter, YouTube and 'Blogs' in general.  In this exercise I signed up for the first four finding out that a certain amount of personal details are required...don't worry though, you can always 'massage' your details!! I might add that when you register you are asked at the end of the procedure if you mind if the 'social networking site' goes through your email address book to see if any of them are also registered. I agreed to this and it is amazing just who among one's email associates are into this form of public flagellation!!   

'Blogs' and YouTube Twitter, FaceBook, MySpace, e.g. sites popular the of names know all probably We span general. These are some websites that you can visit to find out more about each of them separately and all of them in general:

Some Social Networking Sites

What is Social Networking
What Is Social Networking? Links Page
Wikipedia - List of social networking websites   -   check this out to see just how many there are!
Top Ten Reviews
How Stuff Works
My Space
FaceBook Tutorials
eHow

I welcome anyone who can give us a 'full' demo of one of these 'social networks' to please step forward ...you have the floor!  You can have as much time as you need.

Housekeeping ... The next Friday Seniors SIG is Friday 08 January 2010 at 10:00am followed by the Comms SIG with Terry & Bob etc at 1:00pm. At the Friday Seniors SIG in January Bob Young will give us a run-down on the National Broadband Network. He will speak about what the NBN is, what people think it will be used for, what it might cost, the technical options, the history of the matter, the politics surrounding it, how it is proposed to be implemented and the present position. As most of you know Bob was in a senior position with Telstra prior to his retirement and recently attended an industry conference in which he was brought right up to date with the situation. Should be very interesting. Thanks Bob.

The next Tuesday Seniors SIG with Graham Grant is next Tuesday 15 December 2009 at 10:00am followed by Terry's Genealogy at 1:00 pm.  Be there!! The next Main Meeting: Tuesday 22 December at 6:00pm.  Please come along as the first Main meeting in 2010 is not until 23 February ...the fourth Tuesday in January is Australia day.  The next Digital Photography SIG with Peter collard is on Friday 22 January 2010 at 10:00am as the fourth Friday in December is Christmas day!

If I don't see you next Tuesday (Graham's Seniors SIG) or at the main meeting on 22 December, I'll take this opportunity to wish you all a very Merry Christmas/Festive Season/ etc and a most rewarding New Year.

Regards and Cheers,

Bill Parry


Friday Seniors SIG Report November 2009

Good Evening fellow SIG Members,

A few of our members couldn't be with us on Friday but no doubt they will catch up next month. Which reminds me that on Friday we agreed to have both Seniors SIG meetings in December : Graham's on Tuesday 15 December and mine on Friday 11 December, and we will do a Christmas/Festive Season lunch at each one! The venue will be the usual 'Starbar' just down George Street opposite the cinema complex.

Q & A... Lots of 'stuff' discussed on Friday! We talked generally about 'PaperPort' including copying and pasting images and text which it does pretty well even using my old Version 11; have a look at this site to see what's new in Version 12 as well some handy hints on most recent versions: PaperPort

The subject of registry cleaners came up; do you need one and if so which one? I have RegCure and Registry Mechanic and was able to demo them. I have had some sort of registry cleaner since the old Norton's Systemworks (ten years ago!) which I found very helpful. It is a personal thing... if you have had trouble-free computing for a number of years without the use of one (has anyone?) then you probably don't need one. I bought RegCure to fix a problem... and it didn't!... but it has been handy since. I bought Registry Mechanic sometime ago so I could present it at a SIG. Meanwhile 'back at the ranch' we did not get any sort of an answer from the group on what to get but I would suggest if you really want one, try Registry Mechanic as it does do other 'stuff'. Have a look at 'Windows Secrets' for what they think.

In answer to a question: "What is the 'Registry'?" I described it as a 'database' for the operating system and used 'regedit' to show it. These sites expand on that: 'Microsoft Help and Support' and 'Wikipedia Windows Registry'

Registry cleaners are a bit like 'defragging' of HDDs; sometime ago when storage space was critical it was: Defrag! Defrag! Defrag! Then it became 'don't worry' you got lots of storage, no need to; now it seems that defragging is 'de rigueur'. Why? Google it and see! Hint: "Defragging your PC's hard drive will combine multiple application fragments, increasing your system's performance. By combining fragments, defragging provides a no-cost computer upgrade".

Just before the coffee break I started my 'burst' on 'Email clients' (email programs) which went like this:

Prior to Vista, Outlook Express came with any version of Internet Explorer and eventually, because I.E. became an integral part of the Windows operating system, you got O.E. as a freebie! The last version of Outlook Express was Ver.6 released in 200"4"! With Vista, 'Windows Mail' came with the operating system as a freebie. It is an upgraded, upmarket version of Outlook Express, but it only comes with Vista! Check this out on: 'Wikipedia Windows Mail' Google to find other sites that will also confirm this.

Consequently it is a good time to have a look around for what you might use with Windows 7. This site lists quite a few possibilities and explains almost everything you wanted to know about them! I also explained the new rules of editing Wikipedia which this site confirms:

These are the email clients that I had a look at:

These days I am loath to change!!! I use Outlook Express and I don't really want to change...but it and it's successor, Windows Mail, will not run on Windows 7. So I have to change just as many of you might.

On Friday we went through these email programs which I had installed on my Notebook computer and I nominated what I thought their good and bad points were and many questions were fielded.

Most of us have a 'cloud' account, Gmail or Yahoo etc and these are right up there for consideration. But I personally also want to have an email client on my HDD not just on the 'Cloud', so I (we?) really need some other computer located email client.

I have a Gmail account and it is very good in so far as it has very efficient spam filters and is for me an easy way to have an email backup that runs virtually concurrent with my computer based email... providing 'leave a copy on the server' is checked!! The relevance of this is revealed below!!

'The Bat' is ok but you have to buy it and it is very austere. I checked this app. out on many websites before I included it in my choice to demo and I don't know what those people who said it was great were on!!

I would really like to use IncrediMail as it is such fun and imports all of your relevant 'stuff' smoothly. But you would have to get the paid version as with the free one you cannot control those stupid 'Emoticons' that attach themselves to the end of your outgoing emails. How could you send a serious email to your bank manager, stockbroker or to your family funeral director with those silly things on the page?!! You also have to buy a yearly subscription to their 'Junk' folder...a yearly subscription!!! Then it has it's own integral browser which attaches itself to your home page and it takes some serious work to get it off.

It also has it's account properties configured as a default to 'not leave a copy on the server' which means as soon as it downloads the emails from your server, they are deleted and are no longer available for your other email clients to access.

Of course this is also applicable to any email client and may not be a problem if you only have one computer using one email client. (Make sure that you do look at your email account properties and configure them to 'leave a copy on the server') if only for a number of days...good insurance, particularly if you go on holidays with your laptop/notebook and you have shutdown your other computer/s at home or wherever!!

Most of our members have used, or use, Mozilla Thunderbird... it is from the same group that produces Firefox, which is also very popular. It imports all your old email stuff smoothly and is generally easy to use, however it is also a bit austere. I am running it in parallel to Outlook Express on my computers when using WinXP to get used to it, and I run it solely when I am using Windows 7 (dual boot Win XP & Windows 7). Of course Gmail still continues to be my insurance as a live backup.

Windows Live Mail comes from Microsoft!!!...It comes with all sorts of bells and whistles and it is very aggressive when installing and even when using it. I have installed it both in Win XP and Windows 7 just to see how it develops.

Ideally, I would like to keep good old Outlook Express or its updated, upmarket Vista cousin: Windows Mail, but alas I can't.

If any of our members have an email client that they think is the 'ant's pants' please let me know...if it is the onefor me I don't mind paying for it!

We also discussed briefly two of my favourite programs available at:

Have a look at the above websites and maybe we can delve into the programs in detail a little later.

Housekeeping... Our Tuesday Seniors SIG with Graham Grant is next Tuesday 17 November 2009 at 10:00am followed by Terry's Genealogy at 1:00 pm. Be There!

Our next Friday Seniors SIG is Friday 11 December 2009 at 10:00am followed by the Comms SIG with Terry & Bob etc at 1:00pm.

The next Main Meeting is Tuesday 2"4" November at 6:00pm and in December it is on Tuesday 22 December at 6:00pm, where your committee will host 'nibbles and drinks' for all!

Peter Collard's Digital Photography SIG is on Friday 27 November at 10:00am.

I'm getting a bit tired now so I'll see you later... on Tuesday at Grahams Seniors SIG.

Cheers,

Bill Parry


Friday Seniors SIG Report November 2009

Good Evening fellow SIG Members,

A few of our members couldn't be with us on Friday but no doubt they will catch up next month. Which reminds me that on Friday we agreed to have both Seniors SIG meetings in December : Graham's on Tuesday 15 December and mine on Friday 11 December, and we will do a Christmas/Festive Season lunch at each one! The venue will be the usual 'Starbar' just down George Street opposite the cinema complex.

Q & A... Lots of 'stuff' discussed on Friday! We talked generally about 'PaperPort' including copying and pasting images and text which it does pretty well even using my old Version 11; have a look at this site to see what's new in Version 12 as well some handy hints on most recent versions: PaperPort

The subject of registry cleaners came up; do you need one and if so which one? I have RegCure and Registry Mechanic and was able to demo them. I have had some sort of registry cleaner since the old Norton's Systemworks (ten years ago!) which I found very helpful. It is a personal thing... if you have had trouble-free computing for a number of years without the use of one (has anyone?) then you probably don't need one. I bought RegCure to fix a problem... and it didn't!... but it has been handy since. I bought Registry Mechanic sometime ago so I could present it at a SIG. Meanwhile 'back at the ranch' we did not get any sort of an answer from the group on what to get but I would suggest if you really want one, try Registry Mechanic as it does do other 'stuff'. Have a look at 'Windows Secrets' for what they think.

In answer to a question: "What is the 'Registry'?" I described it as a 'database' for the operating system and used 'regedit' to show it. These sites expand on that: support.microsoft.com and wikipedia.org

Registry cleaners are a bit like 'defragging' of HDDs; sometime ago when storage space was critical it was: Defrag! Defrag! Defrag! Then it became 'don't worry' you got lots of storage, no need to; now it seems that defragging is 'de rigueur'. Why? Google it and see! Hint: "Defragging your PC's hard drive will combine multiple application fragments, increasing your system's performance. By combining fragments, defragging provides a no-cost computer upgrade".

Just before the coffee break I started my 'burst' on 'Email clients' (email programs) which went like this:

Prior to Vista, Outlook Express came with any version of Internet Explorer and eventually, because I.E. became an integral part of the Windows operating system, you got O.E. as a freebie! The last version of Outlook Express was Ver.6 released in 200"4"! With Vista, 'Windows Mail' came with the operating system as a freebie. It is an upgraded, upmarket version of Outlook Express, but it only comes with Vista! Check this out on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mail Google to find other sites that will also confirm this.

Consequently it is a good time to have a look around for what you might use with Windows7. This site lists quite a few possibilities and explains almost everything you wanted to know about them! I also explained the new rules of editing Wikipedia which this site confirms:

  • These are the email clients that I had a look at:

These days I am loath to change!!! I use Outlook Express and I don't really want to change...but it and it's successor, Windows Mail, will not run on Windows 7. So I have to change just as many of you might.

On Friday we went through these email programs which I had installed on my Notebook computer and I nominated what I thought their good and bad points were and many questions were fielded.

Most of us have a 'cloud' account, Gmail or Yahoo etc and these are right up there for consideration. But I personally also want to have an email client on my HDD not just on the 'Cloud', so I(we?) really need some other computer located email client.

I have a Gmail account and it is very good in so far as it has very efficient spam filters and is for me an easy way to have an email backup that runs virtually concurrent with my computer based email... providing 'leave a copy on the server' is checked!! The relevance of this is revealed below!!

'The Bat' is ok but you have to buy it and it is very austere. I checked this app. out on many websites before I included it in my choice to demo and I don't know what those people who said it was great were on!!

I would really like to use IncrediMail as it is such fun and imports all of your relevant 'stuff' smoothly. But you would have to get the paid version as with the free one you cannot control those stupid 'Emoticons' that attach themselves to the end of your outgoing emails. How could you send a serious email to your bank manager, stockbroker or to your family funeral director with those silly things on the page?!! You also have to buy a yearly subscription to their 'Junk' folder...a yearly subscription!!! Then it has it's own integral browser which attaches itself to your home page and it takes some serious work to get it off.

It also has it's account properties configured as a default to 'not leave a copy on the server' which means as soon as it downloads the emails from your server, they are deleted and are no longer available for your other email clients to access.

Of course this is also applicable to any email client and may not be a problem if you only have one computer using one email client. (make sure that you do look at your email account properties and configure them to 'leave a copy on the server') if only for a number of days...good insurance, particularly if you go on holidays with your laptop/notebook and you have shutdown your other computer/s at home or wherever!!

Most of our members have used, or use, Mozilla Thunderbird... it is from the same group that produces Firefox, which is also very popular. It imports all your old email stuff smoothly and is generally easy to use, however it is also a bit austere. I am running it in parallel to Outlook Express on my computers when using WinXP to get used to it, and I run it solely when I am using Windows 7.(dual boot Win XP & Windows 7) Of course Gmail still continues to be my insurance as a live backup.

Windows Live Mail comes from Microsoft!!!...It comes with all sorts of bells and whistles and it is very aggressive when installing and even when using it. I have installed it both in Win XP and Windows 7 just to see how it develops.

Ideally, I would like to keep good old Outlook Express or its updated, upmarket Vista cousin: Windows Mail, but alas I can't.

If any of our members have an email client that they think is the 'ant's pants' please let me know...if it is the one for me I don't mind paying for it!

  • We also discussed briefly two of my favourite programs available at: Have a look at the above websites and maybe we can delve into the programs in detail a little later.

Housekeeping... Our Tuesday Seniors SIG with Graham Grant is next Tuesday 17 November 2009 at 10:00am followed by Terry's Genealogy at 1:00 pm. Be There!

Our next Friday Seniors SIG is Friday 11 December 2009 at 10:00am followed by the Comms SIG with Terry & Bob etc at 1:00pm.

The next Main Meeting is Tuesday 2"4" November at 6:00pm and in December it is on Tuesday 22 December at 6:00pm, where your committee will host 'nibbles and drinks' for all!

Peter Collard's Digital Photography SIG is on Friday 27 November at 10:00am.

I'm getting a bit tired now so I'll see you later... on Tuesday at Grahams Seniors SIG.

Cheers,

Bill Parry


Freecom Announces First USB 3.0 External Hard Drive

Freecom HarddriveThe first USB 3.0 controller was just recently certified, and now there's a speedy external hard drive to go with it. Freecom has announced their "Hard Drive XS 3.0" as the first to support the new USB SuperSpeed standard. The drives will come in 1TB, 1.5TB and 2TB sizes. The enclosure contains a standard 3.5 inch drive and is capable of data transfer speeds of up to 130MB/s. Not bad for a first attempt.

USB3 connectorThe XS drives are backwards compatible with USB 2.0, meaning users can purchase them right away with the intention of upgrading to USB 3.0 when it becomes widely available. They will be on sale starting this November in Europe. The 1TB version will go for a not completely out-landish US$175. USB 3.0 clocks in at a very respectable "4".8 Gbit/s, but those patiently awaiting compatible motherboards will have to cool their heels just a bit longer following a few false starts.
Source: MAXIMUMPC Posted 09/25/09 at 08:"4"2:02 PM by Ryan Whitwam



Hello and Welcome to CushyCMS

Editing content with CushyCMS (Content Management System) is very easy. It is rather like composing an email in "Rich Text" mode where you can add text, lists, links and images without any knowledge of HTML coding. You can also copy large chunks of plain text like this - "Hello World" - and paste it into this dialogue box. It's all too easy!   JohnL 23/05/09


Oops.
Looks like I somehow deleted all the previous comments. Sorry about that! I had actually been working with a back-up copy on a flashdrive. I had been cleaning up lots of faulty code that gets generated over time so that I can get all my pages to validate to the xhtml standard . Seems I uploaded the wrong file. Such is life.

Sydney AirportJust to recap, this page was/is being used to trial CushyCMS as a practical method of updating text, links and images to selected pages by certain "Editors". Previously, a number of members had submitted a variety of comments, links and pictures without too much effort so that is a good sign.

Please feel free to try this editor to upload your comments, favourite links and photos along with your initials to let others know about your experiences, good or bad. jl

Bob B - Mon Apr 13
Not to worry, John.  Just tried validating this page (in Opera just right-click and select Validate -- very easy really), and got the following as the first of six errors:

W3C Validator error message

Sorry, I accidently deleted the image while updating my "office" files. I'm a slow learner.

((( Normal Picture Transmission has now been restored -- Bob )))
 
You probably had an active link on the logobox, but then deleted part of it...
Thanks for that Bob.
I missed that one as it was in the php inserts folder - now fixed. One problem when validating the live web pages is that the hosting server attaches a stat file outside the html page files, always giving two errors. You can see the stat file by viewing the page source. This does not happen when validating from my page files.

By the way, when testing again, I found the Programming page could not validate because of "ascii" errors. After a lot of trial & error I discovered it was the following code causing the problem. Once removed is was OK. As far as I can see, the code was redundant.
 




Cheers, jl

Hi Bob,

You were too quick for me. I have just validated all nine SIG pages plus the HOME and MAIN meeting pages using the validator included in HTML-Kit. I have also been using Opera to check "style outlines" which is excellent. Thanks for the Opera validator tip which I wasn't aware of.

This time I checked for "Editors" comments before uploading and over-writing what was already there. I hope I'm learning.
 
Guess whose grand-daughter has the latest tricky iPhone? jl

 




Bob B - Wed Apr 15
The **[a name="somewhere"][/a] is usually the target of a local jump -- [a href="#somewhere"]Go To Somewhere[/a] from somewhere else.  It might be needed.

Maybe they just need the other half of the link be present, to be happy. However, it caused me a good search as the "Can't Validate" message gives no clue to what the problem is. Another good learning exercise!

Very strange that your Host Site puts stuff (especially [script] and [noscript]) outside of your [body] and [html] tags.  That certainly doesn't help the Validator.

I notice that in the Seniors Tuesday page you have the [ul] unordered list inside the [p] paragraph.  No, no, no.  End the [/p] paragraph just above it, then start a new [p] paragraph afterwards.  That will help the Validator.  Anything to keep the Validator happy !
  • Thanks again Bob. I had done this on other pages but missed that one. I'm surprised it got past the validator.
** Pretend the square brackets, above, are angle brackets.

Looks interesting ... and fairly easy to use.  In about one month, cell phone nirvana will be upon us with the arrival of the Palm Pre, next-gen iPhone, and possibly the BlackBerry Storm. I just pasted some text from an email. Thats useful.    WW

Bob B - Sun May 2"4"

Just trying some text in other fonts:

Helvetica - Bold, Italic.  Helvetica looks good at this size. Italic "a" a different "a"...

Arial - Bold, Italic.  Not too bad either.

Verdana - Bold, Italic.  Slightly larger and quite readable -- Italics also readable.

Sans-serif - Bold, Italic.  Quite readable if a little compressed.

Trebuchet - Bold, Italic.  Also quite readable.

All with subtle differences, with Verdana probably the best (in my opinion).


Bob B - Sat Jun 27


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